…because the same old damn argument is raging again. (Or still. Whatever. It never stops, but it only rages once every two years.)
“If you don’t vote, you don’t have any right to complain.”
Which to me always seems exactly backward. If you vote, you’re acknowledging the legitimacy of the system as it has devolved so what are you complaining about? You’re getting just what you said you wanted: More government*.
So am I, of course, but let that go for a moment.
I’m just stating that because I don’t pretend to stand above the argument. If the argument must happen at all, that’s the side I’d take in it. To quote the cliché, No matter who you vote for government wins. All this is brought to mind on this beautiful if chilly Tuesday by reading all about it here, in a rather unusual example of the argument in that both sides are expressed quite well as is the third conclusion which somebody will inevitably draw, which is that it’s time to start letting Mssrs. Stoner and Kalashnikov do the voting.
And that’s wrong, too. In fact that’s the worst conclusion you’ll find in the box: the course of despair, in which you blow off steam until some overgeared drone blows off your head. And/or burns your house down around you.
In fact, historically, getting your fifteen minutes of fame as a Lone Nut isn’t even the worst possible outcome. The worst possible outcome, historically, happens when there really is an uprising and it really does succeed in sending the current bastards to the lamp posts. That’s when you meet the new bastards. You don’t want to meet the new bastards. You think you’ve got it bad now? Wait’ll the American version of Daniel Ortega is running things, comrade.
The problem isn’t the argument. The problem is the box in which the argument always takes place.
I think I have just seen a new low in the thinking of my fellow conservatives. The people who refuse to vote are going to give this election to the liberals for no other reason than their refusal to vote in a “corrupt system” (most likely), thereby corrupting the system they are against.
In the box, there are always two and only two alternatives (discounting that counsel of despair, of course.) You vote for the closest thing to a conservative because otherwise the despised liberal will win again. Any argument in rebuttal…
Voting, per se, won’t fix the federal government. It wasn’t created that way, it wasn’t corrupted that way, the degenerate status quo isn’t maintained that way and it can’t be fixed that way.
That’s because the game is rigged. No matter who they are, or how they start out – with very few, very rare exceptions – every politician elected to office in D.C. becomes part of The Beltway Party. chasmatic is absolutely right in this respect: “No matter who you vote for, the government gets elected.”
…is immediately shot down with the (logical, inside the box) counter-rebuttal that doing nothing hands the whole thing to the hated liberals, and so ‘the perfect becomes the enemy of the good.’ We’ve been over this and over this, around and around and around, and we always end up in the same place. Voting day comes, voters vote, non-voters don’t vote, and government wins. It’s called ‘thinking inside the box.’
The problem is the box. Here are the four alternatives with which we’re presented:
*Conservatives win, and government grows.
*Liberals win, and government grows.
*We vote from the rooftops and are slaughtered, and government grows.
*We vote from the rooftops and win, and are betrayed.
And government grows.
I detect a pattern.
The problem is the box. In 1789 a bunch of people I never met ratified a document that a lot of people thought seemed like a good idea. I don’t recall being consulted, but reading through that document now with the benefit of 225 years of hindsight shows me, at least, that we ended up where we are now quite inevitably. Frankly, I’m surprised the central government isn’t more totalitarian than it currently is: There seems nothing of substance to prevent it. Of course those three ‘opposing’ branches of government would collude to maximize their overall power. There are plenty of incentives, and absolutely no measures to prevent or punish it. The party system has served as a mask for many years but the ratcheting effect has become quite naked now. They still serve, for a majority of people, to hide the box.
We are told, by those who benefit from it, that we are all parties to a ‘social contract.’ Let’s look at the concept of that contract. A contract is:
a binding agreement between two or more persons or parties; especially: one legally enforceable
An agreement between two or more persons or parties implies that all parties have agreed, yes? Did somebody invite you to sign this ‘social contract?’ I’m just wondering, because they missed asking me.
But it is rational to conclude that if you voluntarily vote for one of the candidates on the list that’s presented to you, you have at least tacitly agreed to the contract. Enjoy your chains, citizen, but don’t come and tell me I have ‘no right to complain.’ YOU have no right to complain.
This supposed ‘social contract’ doesn’t apply to me unless I agree to become a party to it.
Yeah, you noticed how silly that statement sounded, didn’t you? That’s because this is the part where the guns come out, and what does that say about the ‘contract?’
And by now somebody will quite reasonably ask, “Okay then, Joel, what’s your solution?” Hey, I’m just an old hermit. Only a fool would come looking to me for advice. I can tell you what works for me. In fact I’ve been telling you for six years now. I am under absolutely no illusion that it can be scaled up to a nation with hundreds of millions of people, nor do I suggest that anyone try. In the dark of night, when I do all my best thinking, I believe there is no way out within the paradigm of the nation-state. Look at all the alternatives that have been tried over the centuries, and look how they always end up. The one constant is the nation-state. But history also gives us lots of examples of what happens when you break society into smaller units, and that’s not pretty either.
I know of no solution to the ills of ‘society.’ Neither do you. Neither does Barack Obama, or Nancy Pelosi, or Rand Paul. Anyone who says he does is ignorant and/or lying through his teeth.
But I know what works for me. Nobody can solve the problems of ‘society,’ but anybody can work on his or her own problems.
Step one is to step outside the box. Let’em have their fun: We’re never going to change them, but we can be looking for ways to live in spite of them. And maybe someday, down the road, we can starve the beast down to size. I don’t predict that, exactly, but it’s a more realistic dream than that you’ll reform politicians and bureaucrats.
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*BTW, this discussion refers strictly to federal elections. There are plenty of much more compelling arguments in favor of participating in local elections.
ETA: And these are the people you’re voting for…
Seriously. WTF?
“There are plenty of much more compelling arguments in favor of participating in local elections.”
Not really.
“I know of no solution to the ills of ‘society.’ Neither do you. Neither does Barack Obama, or Nancy Pelosi, or Rand Paul. Anyone who says he does is ignorant and/or lying through his teeth.”
Bingo! And any time that someone tells you that their proposed solution to any of society’s great problems is “simple”, you won’t go far wrong by thereafter ignoring whatever that person has to say.
Added: Too bad there’s no edit function for existing comments.
In my own town, we had a minor voter uprising in which we forced a town meeting and overwhelming voted to eliminate the very position of Police Chief. Problem solved. Until the selectmen unilaterally decided that that vote only meant the position was eliminated, and didn’t mean that they couldn’t recreate it. Which they — unilaterally — did.
🙂 I said there were better arguments, Bear. I didn’t say they were perfect arguments.
Indeed, Bear. Here in Wyoming a dedicated bunch of swine, probably financed out of NYC, is working tirelessly to reinstate the “permit” to carry concealed, and impose other insane restrictions. All the blood running down the streets, you know. And none of us will get any “vote” on it one way or another – as if it was actually a legitimate question anyway.
You are so right, Joel. It isn’t one flavor or another of tyranny… it’s the box. There is no answer as long as most people are willing to accept the bogus “authority” of non-voluntary government. Any kind or size.
I mostly agree with you. Participating in local elections is generally a good idea – except for so-called “non-partisan” positions such as Sheriff. We all know that there is no such thing as “non-partisan.” You’re either a small government advocate of personal freedom, or a terd-sucking big government liberal/socialist. I believe ALL politicians should be required to show their true colors as soon as they throw their hat in the ring.
Probably better not to take their word for it. Anyway, in a small town or county, everyone already knows who and what they are. Very difficult to hide behind lies out here.
Will options 3 or 4 necessarily, be *our* choice? (My only quibble.)
Nicely said, Joel.
It certainly is getting on about election time; I can tell that because the sense of being a relentless killjoy is suddenly going through the roof. Once I can no longer resist reaching for the George Carlin references to national elections as events of public masturbation, I should realize it’s just about a week away.
Well: may the afterglow be mercifully short, so everyone can get back to wondering aloud how things could have gotten this bad. (Absurd as that may seem, it’s actually preferable to all this “Do Your Part” and “Kiss Me, I Voted” vomitus.)
I don’t know if you’ve heard this election ad yet https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4GiRj3I3-m0
It’s over. This great experiment we call America is in it’s death throes. Slowly at first and then with a rush a cabal of left/socialist/communist politicians took over. They did it at the ballot box. With lies to voters, illegal voters, cheating, etc. but they did it at the ballot box. One of their tools in this takeover was convincing the oppisition not to vote. Indeed many in the opposition were not our favorite candidates but for the most part they would have protected us from the rabid left. But the MSM and the far left cabal hit us day after day with lies and misrepresentations of the opposition party and their candidates. This left too many confused, frustrated and without the will to fight back so they didn’t vote or if they voted they voted for “none of the above” as a useless protest vote. Is it reall all over, they have won, no chance to take it back? Fair question but if you have to ask then you aren’t paying attention. 25 million foreign born workers have jobs here in the U.S. but 20 million American born “workers” do not. Taxes continue to rise and are an all time high for the middle class but many on the left pay no taxes at all and in fact get substantial amounts of YOUR tax money as a gift for voting for the radical left. But if you doubt it then sit back on your “I won’t vote” easy chair and watch. It won’t take long to become obvious even for the most clueless. Oh sure the left will blame everything on Bush or the right but sooner or later it will be clear that they won and you lose. Good luck. America and it’s dream is “gone with the wind”.
Mssrs. Stoner and Kalashnikov………. What about Mssr. Garand…huh? You two party guys are so narrow minded.
The system may become self correcting as the looters out number the providers. The correction will be a bitch.
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