Because…
That’s why.
I like shorties. Last week Ian and I were out running some errands, and of course we were talking about guns because this was Ian. I told him that, after having opportunities to play with his Krinkov, if I could have just one more gun and it could be anything I wanted I’d want some sort of shorty. Wouldn’t be a shotgun, but shorties are just damned nice jeep guns. I love my M1A, but there’s no question it’s a big, heavy, clumsy club of a rifle and it spends almost all its time in its case. The AK, qualitatively inferior in most ways, hangs loaded on the wall. If I had Ian’s shorty, THAT would be on the wall. Most of the advantages of a pistol without the inadequate ammo. Most of the advantages of a rifle without all that length and weight. Illegal unless you pay Uncle Sugar $200 and wait eight months for permission from the principal, neither of which I’m gonna do.
What? No pix? Where is the gun pr0n?
> evil grin < Doesn’t the AK you presently carry count as a “shortie”? I like small and compact but the MN 91/30 (my MBR at this point) is definitely not a “shortie”. Shoot the bayonet is over 17 inches by itself. My alternatives are an M44 and a 30 carbine. Even though they are long and cumbersome they use the 7.62X54r that Will “reach out and touch ….” uhm things.
The 30 carbine … not so far out but still packs a punch at 300m.
My personal favorite is the M1 30 carbine even if it is really just a pistol cartridge with a rifle stock added.
By “shorties” do you mean rifles with folding stocks or over all shorter rifles?
Bullpups etc?
Pixs Please? (Like I have any frn’s to buy another rifle …)
Whenever someone asks me a question beginning with “Why do you need…” I answer, “Need has nothing to do with it.” and leave it at that. People who ask questions like that are usually (always?) unapologetic statists and I don’t suffer statists well.
Yes indeed, gooch, my M1 30 is my favorite rifle of all time. It’s the first one I ever had that actually fit me immediately. I love to shoot it… just not so fond of buying the ammo. sigh
And Sunday was the red letter day… I got tired of waiting to find a private sale and ordered my XD 9mm compact. I don’t carry concealed often (need to do it more to practice), and the revolver is just too damned much trouble to hide without a winter coat. 🙁
So, of course, first thing I need to do is buy more 9mm ammo. Will have to wait a while longer to buy the short barrel for the 20 gauge shotgun. Always something… 🙂
I think by “shorties” he means rifles with barrels under 16″ – legally “short-barreled rifles”. At least, that’s what mine is, an AK with a folding stock and a 9.5″ barrel. Yes, taxed and registered. I made it from a cut-down Romanian “G” kit and a Chinese Type 56 sidefolder.
That looks like fun to watch, but I’m betting firing that many 12 gauge loads from a stock like that will leave a mark on the shoulder. I do admit – it looks like an awesome gun to carry when a bump out there in o’dark thirty occurs.
An AK with a 20 round mag isn’t as cumbersome as the “field monopod” the 30 rounder becomes, add a fold stock and you’re in business.
I have a stash of the 20 round mags for the AK, one set of 3 I got with the Hungarian mag pouch to boot. Was told they were for the AMD65, which in its original flavor barrel length is a mighty handy piece of equipment.
Yeah, my AK is just an AK. This is a shorty.
I have been seriously considering entering the ranks of the much lauded NFA collector statist ranks myownsef.
Here in the peoples crumbling republic calistan I can get my greedy paws upon an AOW. Namely a short barreled shot spitting AOW.
I have gone so far as to set up a trust and this will be one of it’s named assets so I don’t have to grovel for the permission of the local commissar of law enforcement while I am groveling for permission from the federales. She is disinclined anyway so the trust thing is convenient.
I do this not because a Remington breacher with a pistol grip is so necessary for me. The wife does want one which makes life easier, yeah, she’s a keeper but rather because it would kind of stick in the craw of many a chronic gun hater. Especially my neighbor. She saw me walking from my house to the garage with an EBR once and DEMANDED a SWAT team be dispatched.
The Constables know my address and a cop familiar came to have a brief word.
I haven’t sent the paperwork in or that or for my request for a C&R FFL.
I hate asking for permission to do things my Grandfather simply went ahead and did most of his life without asking anyone.
Buck.