Yeah, but they’re stealth WWI seaplanes.

Iran Unveils Squadrons of Flying Boats

“Islamic Republic of Iran is one of the few countries which managed to design, build and use flying boats in a short time,” said Defense Minister Brig. Gen. Ahmad Vahidi, who oversaw the delivering of the aircraft at the Bandar Abbas naval facility on the Persian Gulf near the Strait of Hormuz.

Aren’t these the same people who solved the problem of Iraqi minefields by driving herds of surplus citizens through them during the Iran-Iraq war?

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5 Responses to Yeah, but they’re stealth WWI seaplanes.

  1. jon spencer says:

    These Wing in Ground vehicles are very fast, maneuverable and can carry enough explosives to do major damage to most ships.
    I believe that these are to be used in a “kamikaze” swarm style.
    Probably no shortage of volunteers to pilot these craft either.

  2. Joel says:

    That thought did occur to me, Jon. Supposedly the planes are armed with a single machine gun, which would be pretty much useless for warfare in the Gulf. I can see somebody thinking it would be a good idea to pack them with explosives and just fly them into warships. But that didn’t even work well for the Japanese in WWII, and the U.S. Navy has given the matter some thought since then. Their ships are equipped to defend themselves against cruise missiles, which go a helluva lot faster than these single-prop pushers possibly could. Granted that they’re pilot-guided and maybe maneuverable as hell, they’re not going to outmaneuver those insane bullet hoses (I forget what they’re called) ships use to protect themselves from missiles, to say nothing of the AIM-9s that would be raining down on them from all those vastly superior Navy jets. No. This is as stupid as the PT boats and minisubmarines Iran touted a few years ago. Only…stupider than that.

  3. Keith says:

    That looks like a clone of a VW beetle engine up top. even assuming it’s something bigger, it looks like a direct drive to the prop (reduction gears don’t work well with less than 9 cylinders, as the load reversals with fewer cylinders and either no or at best a light flywheel, hammer the gears to pieces)

    so to keep the prop tips sub sonic (supersonic is very noisy (think of a harvard) and very inefficient due to drastically increased air resistance) max revs will be about 3,000 RPM

    That means it isn’t going to be more than about 100 to 150 HP at the very best.

    It doesn’t look a very light weight structure either

    That means it will have a very limited payload, and absolutely crap climb performance (think of an asthmatic Cessna 150 on a hot day) I’d also guess that with the open cockpits the max speed is going to be little over 100 MPH.

    also contrast it to the 47′ wingspan and 500+ rated horsepower of a Fairy Swordfish wwii torpedo plane

    The swordfish was very slow too, but being a biplane (inherently they’re easier to build very strong than monoplanes), and capable of safely withstanding far more G than the crew ever could.

    If it came under fighter attack, the pilots put them into a vertical dive and pulled out just above the water – a maneuver that fighter pilots were loathe to follow.

    Those Iranian things are – at the most dangerous, trainers and observation platforms, at best, they’re fun planes.

  4. Anonymous says:

    Those things are ground effect vehicles incapable of flying more than a few meters above the water. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ground_effect_vehicle These Iranian contraptions might be fun to play with at the beach but serious weapons they are not. Now the Soviets had a different approach. See link above.

  5. Keith says:

    The Soviets abandoned Ekranoplanes.

    Ground effect is limited to within about 3 wing spans distance from the ground or water surface, above that you need full size wings and full flying speed. I think one of those little things was actually well above 3 wing spans altitude, suggesting that it is an actual aeroplane.

    The problem with ekranoplanes was when they got into turbulence, it was easy to either;

    find yourself at or just above the upper limit of ground effect at which point the thing went nose down and you only had 3 wing spans of altitude in which to get the nose up again, or you hit the water in a dive,

    or,
    you ended up nose down closer to the water, and the result was the same.

    There’s nothing quite like having a couple of thousand feet or more altitude to give you time and space to recover from the bumps and lumps that the air is surprisingly full of.

    I had to watch the vid a couple of times to spot the small ailerons on the turned up wing tips, for a while I suspected that the controls were two axis; rudder and elevator only, which would certainly simplify flying the things.

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