I’m just sayin’: If you’re doing it this way, you’re doing it wrong.
At Ohio State University, to avoid being guilty of “sexual assault” or “sexual violence,” you and your partner now apparently have to agree on the reason WHY you are making out or having sex. It’s not enough to agree to DO it, you have to agree on WHY: there has to be agreement “regarding the who, what, where, when, why, and how this sexual activity will take place.”
And there’s apparently talk of getting it in writing. Given some of the hyperbolic news stories coming out of colleges these days that really might not be a bad idea, though a quicker and surer buzzkill I truly can’t imagine.
I have occasionally speculated that if I were a college student in the scary environment they’ve built for themselves, I’d have died a virgin just because that’s safer and simpler.
My advice to college students is the same as it is to any other person, especially women:
Don’t go stupid places, with stupid people, and do stupid things like get drunk/high and naked with strangers.
Would prevent all sorts of problems, obviously. But young people today seem to ignore the obvious even more than the last few generations did.
But if they are not intelligent or self respecting enough to do that, it isn’t likely they’ll be carrying around some contract to be signed by both parties before they do stupid things.
Recommending responsible precautions is “blaming the victim”, and thus likely to get the feminists’ knickers in a twist. Likewise recommending that young women carry guns and be able and willing to use them.
Actions should never have any negative consequences, no matter how stupid the actions in question. Anything else is sexist!:-P.
If you haven’t seen it, this video is worth a few minutes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5B5NMN7GBA4
Being called “sexist” would make me laugh, but stupid women don’t actually amuse me.
See my little spiel on that: I Carry A Gun – Get Over It http://www.thepriceofliberty.org/?page_id=848
Hmmm, Interesting one, when it is broken down to its essentials:
woman goes out in group
jerk of a male who’s with the group puts something in her drink (for a “laugh” for stupidity, to see if he can get into her pants – whatever)
she wakes up 12 hours later, no memory and damned sore you know where
the group she went out with can’t or wont face her
her fiancee is incredibly understanding
she’s paralysed with guilt and shame, so much so that she’s hiding from her fiancee
I know the written document idea won’t change a single thing in this, or most other situations
but how much of the guilt and shame that the woman is suffering does she actually own?
ps – true story, but far away from me
The sole purpose is to make it easier to punish men. Guilt or crime is not part of this equation it is about power.
That is the obvious intent of many of the feminazis… but the advice holds just as true for men as it does for women:
Don’t go stupid places, with stupid people, and do stupid things like get drunk/high and naked with strangers.
Much more difficult to make suckers out of women OR men if they will just keep their pants on and not put themselves into situations where they have no judgment or control of themselves..
Both men AND women are much too often responsible for their own victimhood when all is said and done.
Maybe it’s just me… the only rapist who ever threatened me got shot for his trouble. http://www.thepriceofliberty.org/?page_id=846 Seems simple enough to me…
1. Don’t go to college.
2. Treat each other with respect.
3. Don’t do stupid things with stupid people. The list includes getting drunk in public with strangers and/ or being intimate with people you don’t know well enogugh to trust.
4. Avoid institutions like college.
It’s not that the advice is bad, i.e. “don’t get drunk in public with strangers”. It’s that the advice is naive or uninformed. All of us (well except for a few) get drunk in public with strangers when we are young. And yes all of us (again except just a few) have taken off our pants and had sex.
As it regards this specific subject “agreeing in writing to have sex” the purpose of this isn’t to prevent rape or to help those who drink and pass out. It is only and intentionally to allow women to more easily “get even” with boyfrinds who jilted them or never called after the first date. So to give advice about not having sex is useless unless you are talking to a priest.
Priests have sex.
Actually, GWTW, that’s just backwards. Yes, people do and will continue to do stupid things. The fact that most of us have done stupid things at one time or another doesn’t change the fact that they are stupid and should, even could be avoided. And if you think priests are exempt from either ordinary sex or temptation, you have not met very many of them, I suspect. 🙂
The advice is sound. If people don’t accept it and do stupid things with stupid people anyway, they just have to live with the consequences. The fact that our current “justice system” does NOT hold most people responsible for their own actions, and flings the burden on others, doesn’t change that.
I have little sympathy for women who don’t care enough about integrity to make good choices, then claim rape. But I think it applies equally to men who do stupid things with women they have absolutely no reason to trust. Both men and women have to be personally responsible for their choices and actions, as well as being prepared to defend themselves from predators – even when they run into them due to stupid mistakes.
As i said, it’s not that the advice is bad… But it really isn’t what the story is all about. The story is about a special interest group getting laws/regulations passed that overwhelmingly favor their particular special interest. Now since you and I both know that college students, both men and women, will have sex, will get drunk and more often then not will do both to give them advice to do neither as a “solution” to the dilemma this story presents is naive and misses the point. I don’t mean it personally, I follow that advice to the “T” but I am 71. The proper “solution” to the problem the story presents is to get the university out of the big brother/sister business.