But over the weekend he said you could stop Charleston-style mass shootings by repealing the second amendment. No, really. He really said that.
Now maybe there’s some magic law that will keep us from having more of these. I mean basically the only way to guarantee that we will dramatically reduce acts of violence involving guns is to basically remove guns from society, and until somebody gets enough “oomph” to repeal the Second Amendment, that’s not going to happen.
And that got me to wondering, because I’m not half as smart as I’ve read Karl Rove is but even a dolt like me can figure out that repealing 2A and then passing a whole bunch of laws confiscating innocent peoples’ guns will not positively affect the rate at which good people are harmed by evil people – who tend to ignore laws, like the ones against murder. It may, however, severely affect the rate at which the good people are helpless against the evil people. Is that officially what a government is for now?
H/T to Sipsey Street.
It may, however, severely affect the rate at which the good people are helpless against the evil people. Is that officially what a government is for now?
And has been, for some time now.
No. That’s not what he really said. I did the full write-up at my place. But he is not advocating repealing the 2nd. He is saying, if you want to take away guns, you would have to do it with a constitutional amendment, not just legislation or diktat. And he clearly said, “that ain’t happening”. He didn’t even recommend taking away guns. he mentions a hypothetical “gun-free” society. Such a society is mythical since it would include criminals and police also not having guns. thus, hypothetical, not a real policy.
https://genericviews.wordpress.com/2015/06/22/mass-shootings-cue-flying-monkeys/
All he said were irrefutable truths and all the libertarians are shitting bricks about it.
You’re absolutely right that he did add “that’s not going to happen,” which can be interpreted as softening his remark. Or not. I can say “I want a world where Nancy Pelosi goes home and minds her own business, but that’s not going to happen,” and (I hope) nobody would interpret that as a Pelosi endorsement.
He said – and I quote – “…the only way to guarantee that we will dramatically reduce acts of violence involving guns is to basically remove guns from society, and until somebody gets enough “oomph” to repeal the Second Amendment, that’s not going to happen.”
Dude, if Michael Bloomberg said those very words they’d be taken as a ringing endorsement of a 2A repeal. Rove doesn’t get a pass just because he’s a republican.
I’m just reading what he actually wrote, and being literate, it seems pretty clear to me. He is explaining basic truth to people with rocks for brains (media).
It is undeniably true that if there were no guns anywhere, there would be no people killed by guns (many would still die by other means but that is irrelevant). It is undeniably true that if you want to properly eliminate guns in the USA, you have to repeal the 2nd amendment (if you are Obama, you could just mandate it and dare the Supreme Court to make you stop).
Don’t let well deserved hatred of Rove blind you to obvious truth of what he is saying. If Bloomburg mentioned that the 45 ACP round produces a larger wound cavity than a .22LR, I would have to agree with him, even though I am against his policies on guns and know he lies about guns consistently.
I’m just enjoying watching everybody claim he said “We have to repeal the Second Amendment” OMG OMG OMG.
Betcha all the libbies are wondering why Carl decided to spill all the beans about their real long-term goal. I’m glad to see this. Maybe some folks will actually learn something here.
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Could we repeal the 1st amendment and thus arrest Rove for speaking politics in public??? Could we simply repeal all the constitution??? As smart as Rove is supposed to be I think he is dead wrong on this. I do not think it would be legal/constitutional to repeal any of the first ten amendments. they aren’t rights given to us by men they are acknowledgements that as free men these rights are ours given to us by god and that men and governments cannot “infringe” on them.
I’m pretty sure all it takes to repeal an amendment is passing another amendment to that effect.
See “prohibition”.
I’m also pretty sure Rove is admitting that it would be nearly impossible to accomplish this on the 2A.