Come one, come all…

I’ve genuinely lost track of how many packrats I’ve killed in the little space between the Lair and the woodshed. Got another last night which makes at least six…100_4627

And every time I put a mouse trap under the Jeep’s hood, I kill a mouse. Every single time. So I got to wondering what would happen if I set two mouse traps under there.100_4629So tonight, I’m setting four. If that works, I may need more mouse traps.

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7 Responses to Come one, come all…

  1. Robert Evans says:

    Are you perhaps making a mistake of leaving baited traps under the Jeep all of the time? Does it not signal “Here is food and a good place to live?” After all, the supply of mice and rats is potentially unlimited, given their breeding capacity.

    Would not a better solution be some sort of barrier around the jeep? I know you can’t afford to build a garage, but is some sort of fencing possible?

  2. Ben says:

    Just because there is a seemingly infinite population of rats in the area doesn’t mean that Joel’s campaign is doomed to failure.

    Where I live, the supply of ants is similarly unlimited. Yet by regularly wiping out every ant activity I find in my yard, I have finally created a local dent in their population sufficient to (mostly) keep them out of the house. That wasn’t an overnight job! It actually took over a year of persistence to see noticeable results.

  3. ZtZ says:

    Robert Evans, yes there is a parking platform with a metal edge around it, plans and directions are on the Internet, that Joel can build in spring if he’s interested. You make a raised platform with gravel, some people put wire mesh under it, large enough to hold the vehicle, then put 12 inch tall or higher smooth metal edging around it, bending at the corners, and leaving one end free so you can open it to drive in and out. It takes time to open and close it each time you leave, but the metal edging keeps rodents from getting access to the vehicle. Wire mesh under the gravel keeps the more determined rodents from burrowing under the metal edge.
    This is ideal rodent trapping time and the more rodents Joel can trap now, the more impact he will have on mating when it warms up. Plus he has all those lovely thick winter pelts to do ?????? with. Ben is right about the persistence – you have to keep after them and you’ll never get rid of all of them because more will just move in from the desert to find food and a warm corner, but you can sure keep the population down. Ben has ants, I have rodents like Joel does and I’ve been discouraging their population growth for over a decade. It seemed hopeless the first few years, but as the years go by there are fewer of them and sometimes none. Many animals have a herd or group memory, and when you decrease the population the remaining animals often forget or never learned where to go and how to get there and either wander off or die out. Don’t know if that applies to ants and rodents…lol
    More traps!!!! More traps!!!! Keep the mojo going.

  4. Ben says:

    An interesting page with potentially useful information: http://www.mrpackrat.net/vehicles.html

  5. Anonymous says:

    Oh, a mouse-proof fence? What kind of fence would keep a mouse out? That’s just SO .. I don’t know, what’s the word I’m thinking of? Ineffective, inefficient … Oh, yes .. IMPRACTICAL!

    I’m thinking …. Claymore Mines. Yes, it might be somewhat of an ‘overkill’, but it would certainly be HIGHLY effective for at least one mouse. Which fencing would probably not be.

    On the other hand, a Claymore is often difficult to acquire, and the mechanism for booby-trap initiation can be awkward. And, too, it would probably be destructive to the vehicle, if placed most advantageously for the destruction of mice.

    One might consider a ‘drowning pool’ … you know, one of those things with a pivoted tip-board which lures mice to the point of the pivot, and then the board drops the mouse into the water? Good for both mice and rats, I’m guessing! Of course … this IS a desert milieu, so the water supply might be dubious. (In other climates, such as here in Oregon, water-traps are self-maintaining due to the 200+ inches of rain a year … but then, mice here have genetically evolved to the point of having evolved water-wings.)

    Another possible trap is a maze-type device which cleverly leads the rodents to Rodent Hell! by use of an electrically charged pair of electrical contacts; when the mouse passes through the most fiendishly difficult section of the maze, he (or she) brushes against two contact points and several mega-joules of electricity course through its body. Obviously, on the most intelligent rodents would achieve this level of the maze, which would have the long term benefit of undermining the mousie gene pool

    This scheme also has the added advantage of instant rodent disposal, given that the current is strong enough to burn the little mousie corpse. Probably would be best when solar powered, which I understand is a resource much more prevalent in the indigenous climate than rain for a water trap.

    ( I was rather fond of the water trap idea, actually. But that’s just me.

    Just thinking ….

    Jerry The Geek

  6. ZtZ says:

    The reasons the parking pad with the metal fence around it works are: the metal is smooth, and the rats/mice can’t get a grip to climb it; the fence has to be taller than the standing rodent so it can’t get its front feet over the top to pull itself up. The wire mesh under the gravel deters burrowing under the fence. I don’t have one but have read that they are rodent proof if built correctly and greatly improve one’s bank account (no more chewed wire repairs and tow charges) and attitude (the vehicle starts and runs reliably).

  7. Robert says:

    I’m thinking a moat and drawbridge.

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