I can almost admire such steadfast adherence to doctrine…

…in the face of the facts and of all logic. Almost.

Ladies and gentlemen, introducing the wit, wisdom and social commentary of gun grabber extraordinaire – Shannon Watts!

Please explore this reasoning with me: According to Ms. Watts, who has presumably given this matter a lot of thought, the whole West Freeway Church of Christ affair was made possible, indeed was caused, by the relaxation of a law against carrying weapons in a church. Because, presumably, not only would the intended victims have been unarmed and helpless under the terms of such a law but the shooter would not have been able to bring a shotgun to a church service.

Because gun carrying in a church would have been illegal.

Like mass murder.



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8 Responses to I can almost admire such steadfast adherence to doctrine…

  1. Judy says:

    There are people out there who still believe the earth is flat even though everybody can see the horizon is 15 miles.

  2. WJW says:

    Have to give her credit for being consistent and persistent. Now she needs to work on being right once.

  3. Robert says:

    WJW: No no no. Being right is irrelevant. Decisions are made according to the feelz. Right?

  4. Ben says:

    I like to think for myself, and sometimes that gets me into trouble. The truth is, this case has been bothering me. I dare to suspect that the facts in this case don’t fully support the narratives of either the gun lobby OR the gun grabbers.

    True Enough! This shooter was effectively dead seconds after he pulled his gun, dead as a result of head shot administered by an armed private citizen who seems to have acted in a pretty competent manner. That man’s decisive action likely kept a dual murder from escalating into a massacre This is exactly what the gun lobby would want to happen in this case, and seems to support their usual narrative 100%. (“The best way to stop a bad guy with a gun is with a good guy with a gun”.)

    But the devil is in the details!

    You see, this is NOT a case of a random assassin walking into a random church whilst expecting it it to be filled with soft, unarmed snowflakes ripe for the killing. According to what I can find, the guy had previously been at that church “several times”. He was known to the parishioners, had received food there, and had tried to get money there. So he was known to the church members and presumably was at least somewhat acquainted with the church and its members himself.

    This is rural Texas! So you can assume that a significant percentage of folks are carrying! This guy had to know that. In fact, he may have known it for 100% sure. Indeed, we know that at least four church members pulled guns. This church seems to have had a very active armed security team, and likely the presence of that team was no secret. Going a step further, it’s possible that this man walked into that church fully expecting to die there, and (of course) he planned to take a few church members along with him.

    Think of the implications of that! Could this be the first documented case of “Suicide By Church”? If so, what does that mean?

  5. EJ says:

    Ben, I get where you’re going and it is at least slightly possible that hardening a target will attract the sort of shooter who’s plans include suicide by cop/armed civilian. I don’t think it fits in this case though. Of course these things don’t really fit into nice neat boxes, but take a look at this report.
    The guy was described as a, “religious fanatic” with a long history of terrorizing and attacking people. Also note the church had given him food but refused him money, so it’s likely there was some sort of grudge involved.
    It’s also worth noting that one of the church members was quoted as saying she was surprised so many people were armed, so maybe he knew about church security; maybe he didn’t.

    Also take a look at this. https://www.fox5atlanta.com/news/white-settlement-shooting-victims-were-church-deacon-security-team-member
    One of the two victims was drawing his weapon when he was shot, so suicide by Good Samaritan seems less likely.

    So while it’s possible that a hardened target might attract a suicide by (insert armed person), I don’t think it’s the case here. I’d personally be more concerned about people bent on homicide with suicide as a possible secondary goal. They are likely to be more dangerous than than people who just want to die and perhaps even those who ‘just’ want to kill.

  6. Kentucky says:

    And after all is said and done . . . one good man with a gun stopped a likely massacre.

  7. mattexian says:

    I defer to the wisdom of Mal Reynolds here: “If someone tries to kill you, you try to kill them right back!”

  8. Tam says:

    Gosh, Shannon, why did Texas just recently pass that law in the first place? Might there have been an event that made it seem necessary?

To the stake with the heretic!